G-Sender Used With Genmitsu PROverXL 6050 Plus

I was recently given a Genmitsu PROverXL 6050 plus because the person became so frustrated with the machine that he wanted it gone. I have always wanted to learn how to do CNC however I feel overwhelmed and largely stuck on stupid. My goal is to gain enough skill to justify moving up to a higher end CNC machine like the LongMill.

Are there any profiles in G-Sender for this particular machine? I know this is a beginner machine and unfortunately I am also a beginner and I could use some help.

Also, would anyone have a project that might consist of a single alphabet or numeric character that I could try getting the router bit to do something in some wood?

If I have overstepped my bounds by not using a Sienci machine please accept my apology. I am in need of help and I thought I would ask for a helping hand. Thank you for your time.

Welcome.. wait.. let me turn on the echo brick.. cilklklk

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Welcom to the dungeon oh mighty warrior. You have found the path to the oracle of wisdom and truth. The know it all of know it alls. The one who failed where no one else could fail! Just to gain the answers for questions no one would ask.

Who, you might ask, is this wonderish person. This magical being with the knowledge of all who passed these gates. Who is this hero that fought in every war, farmed on every field and created everything imaginable.. Is it @_Michael
He made the mistake of owning a genmitsu too, didn’t he?

Daaim your good, but no. It is all of us! We all collected our sours, problems, trials and errors, swept them into buckets of salty tears and threw them around like we had nothing better to do. The result is a collection of drama, Shakespear would kill for.

And here is all the drama over Genmitsus, collected into this hall of shame for you to go trhrough.

https://forum.sienci.com/search?q=Genmitsu

You know, to kill the time while we wait for michael to arrive.

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How am I supposed to live up to introductions like that? Oh well, I’ll try my best.

@EVH5150 Your welcome here. I started on a Genmitsu 3018 upgraded to 3040. My Stepdad had a Genmitsu 4040 that he upgraded to 6060. I’ll help if I can.

First off I think the profiles in gSender are just for flashing the firmware and restoring the default firmware settings. I don’t recommend using gSender to flash the firmware because I’m not sure if SainSmart has modified grbl for use in their machines.

Flashing the firmware shouldn’t be needed unless there is an upgrade. I would follow the instructions here if I did decide to flash.

I suggest using this list to check the firmware settings against the default values. I would use all the default values and only change a setting if you discover a need to do so.

SainSmart has a resources page for your machine that might be useful to you.

As far as a project goes you might want to try an older version of Carbide Create. Awhile back I found a link to the last version that allowed creating G-code for free. The files are still there and when I checked they were what they claimed to be, at least the Windows one as I don’t have access to a Macintosh. Might be a good idea to scan them for viruses just in case though.

I use Vectric VCarve for most of my CNC needs but it’s not cheap. I don’t have any experience with Carbide Create but the process should be something like:

  • Create a design in 2D, a square or circle will do for starting out.
  • Create a toolpath using that design. Maybe a pocket for removing material inside the shape or a profile for cutting out the shape. You’ll need to setup/select the right bit in this step.
  • Output the G-code using a grbl postprocessor.
  • Load the G-code in gSender and run it.

If you want to skip making your own design you could try one of Sienci’s starter projects for the LongMill. Download the sheep, it’s not very big, dimensions are in the link, and pay attention to the information that gSender provides to make sure the machine is going to do what you want. Examining the job dimensions and the path in the visualizer goes a long way in preventing accidents. It’s also not a bad idea to set the Z zero a bit high and just ā€˜cut’ air to make sure the machine is acting correctly before cutting the first time.

Most importantly be safe and keep the emergency stop button handy! Just post back if you have problems and we’ll try to help. If it works post about that too!

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@EVH5150 I simply had to add that, here you were concerned about being in the wrong place. :grinning_face: :grinning_face:

As you can see in the replies by @Spamming_Eddie and @_Michael , all are welcome here. And, while we may not all be as erudite as Eddie, you can count on help from the group gathered here. In addition, make use of the search function of the forum. You will find, no doubt, that may of the issues that may arise have been brought up and addressed.

Have fun.

Thank you to everyone that has taken the time to reply. I didn’t expect that. The Sainsmart website is confusing to me. I have been trying to understand UGS and I see similarities between G-Sender and UGS. In short, I am trying to get started with understanding the software which is my big limitation at the moment. I have been trying to find rememdial step by step training for simple projects. I am still on step 1 and a lot of the videos/articles seem to start just past the beginning leaving gaps where I have questions.

@EVH5150 What CAD/CAM application are you using?

Please know, I have only been trying to understand the software as of this point for a week. I am trying to find step by step instructions that I can follow to get up to speed with the kindergarten subjects.

I have been attempting to learn UGS. I then discovered G-Sender which seems to be similar. I have super basic questions such as:

  1. How are the work zones laid out?
  2. What are the different areas on the board (54, 55, 56, 57, etc.)?
  3. How do I determine the area that should be a macro where the limit switches are for various home locations?
  4. Do programs like UGS and G-Sender have both the CAD and CAM portions built in to them?

This is just a tiny fraction of what I don’t understand. Trust me when I say I don’t seem to understand much. What I’ve been looking for is a course that steps you through (trains) on everything from the basics to advanced. This would be similar to Creative Live and their masterclasses on Final Cut Pro.

Thank you for your time and patience.

@EVH5150 You may want to start here:

In brief, gSender and UGS are code senders. They are not CAD/CAM applications. You start with the latter to design your project and create toolpaths. Those toolpaths are then sent to your machine using a code sender.
Others here will, no doubt jump in to help. I have an actual project to cut, so will be away for a while.

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This response made my day. Thank you very much for welcoming me even though I don’t have a Sienci product.

I left out the one fact that probably makes me a nightmare in this group. I only have Mac computers. I operate a multimedia production facility where audio (recording studio) and video are created and the only computers in house…even in our house…are Mac computers. I apologize if this makes me the blackest cloud in the room.

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If you like to learn from videos you might give IDC Woodcraft on YouTube a look.

He has a ton of videos.

New to CNC start here.

gSender

Carbide Create

Those are just a few that might be handy to get started.

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Thank you for sharing the links. As a newbie I do not know who are the trusted people or authorities in this field.

I have a couple more. I may be biased, but I don’t work for Sienci. I think that a lot of the resources they have made are full of information that applies to other machines. It’s not like SainSmart’s is taking up all your reading time! :person_shrugging:

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You are most certainly hindering your progress greatly by being stuck on Mac computers because Vectric software don’t run on that platform (I’m pretty sure) unless you can make it simulate Windows somehow. There are cheaper (crapier) software out there to learn for CAD/CAM but I don’t recommend them. I tried Carbide Create Pro recently after I’ve been running Vectric for several yrs, it’s a joke & very painful to use, pretty much useless as far as I’m concerned.