Zeroing on nothing (Adding elements to a design with no original xy0)

A good 4 years ago, when I was about to enter the CNC world as a total novice, I was approached to make a remembrance plaque for a stillborn’s grave. Not directly an ideal novice project to start your journey with, but how can one refuse such a request?

To make matters worse, the client wanted the carving on a teak plaque with organic form that he brought with him, leaving no margin for big mistakes nor a clear return path after a disconnect. It took me waaaaaay too long to design and measure out, but long story short, I got it done, and I learned a lot doing so.

I can write a book on this one project and how it immediately pushed my workflow away from anything I had watched others do in YouTube videos. I will not dive into that here because… It’s back!

Like anything left in the brutal weather in northern Europe, this plaque too was losing its shine and was due for a maintenance job on its finish. I didn’t have any hand in the finished job, so that is not why it’s back at my shop. The original job was signed with Mum & Dad, but Mum and Dad have two more kids, and I imagine the kids might have suggested their names be included, and what better moment than when it’s due for its refinishing, eh?

At this moment I have bolted the plaque to the bed, having just enough spare room between a wooden bear that was added after I carved the plaque and delivered it to the client. A bit of good luck can get you a happy face sometimes.

I again took waaay too long looking at the now-disappeared original XY0 problem, trying to add elements to the design file from 4 years past. It only hit me when I was at the actual plaque, drawing in the names by hand to get a feel for the available space. I don’t need the old XY0 because I have the design on the bed of my machine that was created with the now lost XY0. I can zero in on the carving and design from there.

Since I am still a wee insecure about the wisdom of this choice and maybe the aesthetics of the end result. I am opening this topic before actually doing the carve. Tomorrow I will engage this idea using the bottom-left of the P -20 mm as my xyâ‚€ for Dylan and the bottom-right of the A +20 mm as my xyâ‚€ for Patrick. Based on a 4-quadrant (center) base design.

Please jump in if you have doubts, see or feel anything wrong with my solution, or want to share additional ideas.

-To be continued-

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@Spamming_Eddie How about “Dylan & Patrick” just above “Papa & Mama”, perhaps in a slightly smaller font?

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Hi Chuck,

I forgot to mention that the client suggested this setup so I’m pretty much going with it. I feel the char size the lower line is in, is as small as I can get - at least proven to be - with the crudenes of a 6.35 mm 60deg bit and this material. As the first carving was done in pristine condition teak, I tend to take this carve as easy as I can. Meaning to aircarve a few times with decreasing z0 before going for the actual needed z0. This way I hope to kinda rough out the letters and prevent tear outs caused by potential brittled stock due to UV/moisture dammage. The stock is as flat as it was 4 years ago and feels good to the touch, but I still fear it might be compromised and wouldn’t like that surprise hit me in the nuts.

Going smaller does not feel right with the tooling I have and the knowledge gap on this material in this condition. It’s having me on edge, as you might be able to tell, just finding this topic. I am normally the press start guy, but this one.. oh boy.

Did I mention the client is a hells angel as wide as he is big? Had him crying the first time I showed him the finished product, and am hoping to prevent he’ll return the favor.

Praying, not hoping.

All fun asside, thanks for chiming in. I highly appreciate your input.

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@Spamming_Eddie What the customer wants, the customer gets.

Your plan sounds fine to me and dropping Z until you are satisfied is probably how I would do it too.

An alternative would be to put a brass plaque with all four names over the existing names. Engraving brass is easy enough.

Lots of different options.

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Ooooh, If I bleep up I might go that extra fancy brasserie route. Thanks for giving me a backup plan. Takes of the edge a wee. :saluting_face: