Inconsistent left and right Y Axis Travel

New Longmill Mk2 30 x 30 user. Setup and run first few test projects went pretty well. But I noticed the travel on the right side Y axis is not consistent with the left Y axis. Meaning If I bottom out/zero the y gantry to the top (where the two stepper motors are) and then jog the machine all the way back to the front, by the time the left side touches the end stop my right side still has 5mm left to travel before it bottoms out. The same thing happens if I bottom/zero it out at the front and jog the machine all the way back to the top I end up with a 5mm gap on the right side.

I have attempted to diagnose and correct the problem by checking the following:

  1. Check the Delrin wheels to ensure that one side is not too tight
  2. Check the anti backlash nuts for the same issue
  3. Check the coupler between the motor and check ACME nuts to the lead screw to make sure there is no slippage
  4. Checked bench is level and long mill is square
  5. Checked X gantry is square to the Y axis rails
  6. Switched the wires on the Y motors to see if problem switches sides, checked the motor wiring to ensure it is firmly plugged in
  7. Checked the dip switches on the controller to ensure set correctly, changing each dip and moving it back to correct position
  8. Checked current setting on potentiometer on the driver is set correctly at 2 A
  9. Checked lead screws to ensure smooth wand no bends.

Nothing I checked resolved the problem I was having. How ever when I replaced the leads screws, I must have replaced them back in the Mill on the opposite sides. Now when I jog the gantry from one end to the other my problem has switches to the other side. I changed the lead screws back over several times, each time the problems changes over to the opposite side. This has me believing the problem is one or both of the screw.

Is it posable the problem is the lead screw i.e. the pitch on one of the lead screws is at a slightly different pitch to the other causing the gantry on the one side to travel faster or slower than the opposite side. Has anybody else experienced this before. At this point I cant see that the problem is anything other than one of the lead screws. Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

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@Andy-84SSM , I can’t fault your logic, but it seems odd that the lead screws are different. That said, 5mm in 30" is about a 0.66% difference which seems too much for me. When you swapped lead screws was it just the lead screws? Not the stepper motors, bearings, anti backlash blocks, etc.?

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@Andy-84SSM - First of all welcome to the group Andy (since nobody else did, lol). Just a wild thought of a couple of things. 1st - are your couplers both pushed onto the motor shaft to the same position? 2nd - if 1 is correct then are both lead screws pushed all the way into the couplers? 3rd - if both 1 and 2 are correct how many millimeters are sticking out of the front feet with the acme nuts. I guess what I am trying to suggest is if there is an alignment issue between the 2 lead screws. I don’t even know if that’s possible but it seems to me it could be. Maybe Chris Thorogood can shed some light on the issue. He’s the engineer, not me. Just some suggestions.

Hey @Andy-84SSM, welcome to the forum. Good group of folks here for sure. Wish I had a solution for you, but will compliment you on your troubleshooting skills. Have you done a support ticket with Sienci? I am positive they will work with you to solve the issue.

Oh yea, if you would, please post your final solution here. That helps all the rest of us too.

Take care and again welcome!

Jake

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I only swapped the lead screws over which results with the problem moving to the other side of the Y gantry.
I did change the motors over while trying to find what is causing the problem . everything stayed the same as it was before.

checked both motor and lead screws extend into the coupler the same on both side of the coupler 0n both Y axis,. also the measurement of both lead screws extending past the front feet is 16.79 mm on both sides. again both the same so no miss alignment that i can see.

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@Andy-84SSM for sure then, do a support ticket. The company is very good to work with!
Jake

Well, it is a puzzler. Sure sounds like a difference in lead screws. I’ve wracked my brain and, based on your experiments, I can’t come up with another solution. If you have a micrometer maybe you could make of physical measurement of the thread pitch on each screw and compare? Measure across as many threads as your micrometer will span to magnify any possible difference.

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I have exactly the same situation with my Longmill 30 x 30 MK2. The right hand Y axis is slow in both directions. After utilizing the gSender calibration tool, I found out that the left X axis is too fast. Reading through Andy’s steps, I did do steps 1 through 6 and 9. It didn’t occur to me to do steps 7 + 8 after doing step 6. I don’t think it’s necessary. Correct me if I’m wrong.
I will patiently sit back and observe the fault-finding process.

@Andy-84SSM
It could be the adjustment bolts on the anti-backlash nuts. They might be adjusted differently ever so slightly, causing one side to hit the feet before the other one, giving the impression that one side is traveling further.

I can post a picture showing it if you want.

I will try adjusting the anti-backlash bolts. I’m not sure what you meant by “giving the impression one side is travelling further”. The left Y axis is definitely faster and hitting the feet about 1/4" sooner than the right hand side.

I should have said giving the impression one side is lagging behind.

Mine did the same when I first set it up but it was actually the M5-25mm bolts that were hitting the feet. One side was adjusted maybe a quarter turn more so the other side stuck further out a tiny bit. When that side hit, it stopped but the other side still had a bit of movement left.

I ended up switching out the M5-25mm bolts for a slightly shorter set so they didn’t stick out past the gantry any.

The bolt in the yellow circle

@TripleR Just noticed you both are on the MK2 so my thoughts may have been pointless. Sorry