Resurrecting a CNC Mogul

Hi everyone,

Many many many moons ago…like 2012/13; I purchased what was at that time the least expensive introductory cnc router with the largest working envelope I could find. The CNC Mogul.

As a complete novice it seemed like the ideal solution. A near complete kit with all mechanicals and carriages, stepper motors, motion control board and power supply. At the right price. It seemed like an innovative design with a dual drive y axis and movement via rack and pinion. I paid a little extra to double up the extrusions used for the x axis and figured I was good to go.

I had an older pc running windows xp with a serial connection and a pirated copy of Mach3. Man was the learning curve ever steep! I’m pretty sure I was never able to tune the motors correctly. I had the machine jogging around based on software set limits and managed to crash/kill about 500 sharpies before throwing my hands up and taking a break from it for more research and to give more time to my young family. And that was that.

Well it has sat collecting dust long enough. I have been following the growth of Sienci Labs and liked that they were a Canadian startup. The development of gsender, the SLB and now the panel computer has me convinced that with that combo and some of the transducer limit switches I might have found an almost plug and play solution to getting the old pile up and running.

What do think am I out to lunch?

The computer, SLB and transducers are on the way so I guess we are going to find out.

If you have any suggestions I am all ears.

Thanks,

h

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@hSolo Welcome to the group Nathan!

I don’t think your out to lunch! The machine looks like it could have been an ancestor to the LongMill with it’s open frame design.

I think the calibration tools in gSender will be beneficial in getting the machine tuned up. In the worst case scenario you have some good parts towards building a new CNC machine and if you do get it resurrected you’ll have a machine that’s one of a kind which I think is very cool.

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Hi Michael,

Thanks for the kind words of encouragement. I am definitely going to give it my best shot.

The gControl panel computer arrived in timely fashion the day before yesterday. What a fantastic bit of kit that is! Blows my old Shuttle running Windows XP out of the water. Just waiting now for the SLB to arrive.

In the meantime I’m moving the table and Mogul out of the basement and into my father’s wood shop. I’ll take some pictures of it in its new home once set up.

I am hoping the calibration tool will help with working out the steps/rev. Tramming the frame and then tuning the steppers were two huge stumbling blocks if I remember correctly.

Out of curiosity of forum best practice. Should I continue to document my journey here, or start a new thread?

Thanks,

Nathan

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Hi Nathan,

At first I pulled up my nose a bit. Why invest all this money into resurecting that old pile, but I don’t have to dig deep to know why. It’s an unfinished match, a fight that left you brused, bleeding and sore but not defeated. Ab so lu te ly Nót defeated. (And after you win or final defeat, the investment can be poored into a newer machine.)

And ooh I like to see this match! you stepping up, getting into position, rolling your muscless and place your first upcuts, a few downcuts and rambling out some deadly combos.

Get in the ring you Mogul! Dingdingdingggg.

I feel you can keep updates here.

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Hey Eddie,

Thanks for the encouragement! I’m ready for this fight.

The Mogul and then its reincarnation as the Gryphon was complained about for issues with quality control and customer service, not that I experienced either.

The use of plastic rack material was questioned by a lot of people but I can’t say I noticed any excessive wear in my many hours of jogging, calibration, attempts at motor tuning and sharpie maker torture. If anything it made it quiet and (I wish I knew the exact material) if it is hdpe it sort of self lubricates.

And you’re totally on point. When I feel that it’s not up to snuff regarding precision and repeatability. I can upgrade.

I think Phil (if I have his name right) did a great job at producing a machine at a price point the cnc curious could stomach. The quote I had from CNCRouters at the time was several thousand more for a similar working envelope.

Only time will tell. Hopefully I can get it making chips.

N

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Good luck @hSolo! Should be doable. Thanks for introducing me to this piece of CNC router history - I thought I’d seen almost everything but I’ve somehow never some across this machine before :slightly_smiling_face:

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Hey Chris,

Hope you will get to see me making chips soon. Kelly Zhu has been a huge help. With all the seinci goodness coming my way it shouldn’t be too much of an effort.

N

@hSolo I apologize, Nathan. I missed your question about forum best practice.

Please continue to document your journey/progress in this thread. It’s been very interesting so far. I’m looking forward to future posts.