Surfacing Tool wouldn't accept alteration of project dimensions

Recently updated to 1.5.5 and when trying to surface a board alteration of dimensions refused to change after multiple attempts. Appeared to import dimensions from previous version but could never have the changes accepted. Back to 1.5.4 and all worked fine.

@mwbeard1957 FWIW, Mitch, I just tried it and it worked fine. You may want to try to uninstall and re-install 1.5.5.

Third time installation with same result, really strange!

One version Auto-Zero wont work, another Visualizer didn’t work, 1.5.4 all seemed to work and then something new in 1.5.5. Love the software all the same, another challenge to vanquish I guess.

@mwbeard1957 Could you send a screenshot of your surfacing settings so I can try to troubleshoot this problem?

I’ve tried multiple times on a Dell G7 Laptop with latest Nvidia drivers with no success. Will try on an AMD based machine later and test the outcome. Had an instance in the past where a video driver rollback was required to correct a bug.

Settings were

X 16 Y7. Wouldn’t accept and change in size

0.04 - 0.08

.75 Bit

.33% Stepover

16000 rpm

Will let you know how it comes out.

Thanks for your assistance.

100ipm

Actually, an update on this, I can confirm this is a bug with surfacing on 1.5.5. It looks like there’s an issue with the latest input box values not being used when generating the surfacing g-code.

It’s in our backlog now and will be addressed in the next patch release.

@walid_kayhan I was able to change the values. Are you saying that the gcode would not have reflected the values that I put in, Walid? I didn’t go so are as to look at the gcode or run it. The OP seems to be saying that he could not even change the values - a different issue.

Yes, exactly, the input box values are changeable, it’s just not reflected on the g-code output (it is referencing the old values for some reason).

I believe he’s talking about the output not being correct, but maybe you’re right; he might be talking about not being able to update the input values at all. @mwbeard1957 Could you clarify this for us?

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I just had a situation close to what Wascally identified. I was surfacing a production piece at .5mm and everything was fine until the last rotation when the router dropped as far as it could and changed direction. I can’t tell you what the x, y and z reading where as I immediately stopped the run and moved the router to inspect the damage. It should be noted that I could not raise the router by the z control button until I hand rotated the lead screw a few revolutions. I don’t know what other information I can give as like I said every thing was fine for 99.9% of the run and now I’m scared of proceeding with work on this due to the cost of the wood piece involved. If you think this is a problem different from Wascally’s let me know and I will proceed accordingly.

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Hi Chris,

I suspect your problem to be of other cause than what the op is describing. It is not clear to me if you use the surfacing tool in gsender. I believe I read yesterday that the surfacing tool is corrupted in the latest version (is it 1.5.5 now?) Sure the bug is has something to do with settings not taking, but you never know what consequences that has on the tool.

Since I had a bad run with the tool early in my cnc days (prolly due to me bleeping up, mind you) that killed my first makita, I have never used surface tool again and create my own in vectric. It’s mostly just a simple pocket toolpath, nothing too fancy.

Anyhooo, I get your reluctance to continue, I had the shakes too after mounting my new makita. I just examined what could have gone wrong and ended up concluding that I could bleep up the surfacing tool, but could not figure out how I did that. It got scrapped out of my work flow. Never used it again. Mainly because surfacing is so easy to do outside gsender and has never failed again.

Maybe if you, for now, create your own surfacing toolpaths (assuming you used gsender) you might gain some confidence back aswell.

I wish you strength and courage going forward. Elbows up!

Thanks for your input. I’ll see what happens and keep my figures crossed.

Chris

Correct, values were edited but resulting gcode was not updated to new parameters. I’ll just wait for the official release and try again, sure it will be corrected by then,

Thanks for all your support in this matter!

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No worries, and thanks for the clarification. I’ll post here once we have the next release patching this bug :slight_smile:

Thank you sir!

Love everything you guys produce, truly top notch!!

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@mwbeard1957 @walid_kayhan I changed the values and reported on being able to do that. I didn’t think to look at the generated gcode.
I apologize for doing nothing but adding the any confusion.
I bet this kills my chances at that testing job. :grinning_face:

Not my decision but I’d say based on the large volumes of help and guidance I’ve seen from you in the past you should by a no brainer in that department.

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FWIW, I just went to surface a new spoil board and set the depth per pass and total to .2mm (my sub base is really flat). the Gcode that was generated was 1mm dpp and 2 total. The last settings I used. This is my first time surfacing on 1.5.5. I use the surfacing tool a lot and this is going to be a problem. After a couple of tries getting out of the surfacing tool and back in then changing the values again I can get it to stick at 0.2 but can’t switch it back to 1mm to fix where I stopped the job when I realized what was happening. I’m going be a little tin foil hatty here but the use of AI for code writing does not negate the necessity of regression testing. I’ve noticed a lot of other established software/web sites that are getting put into production with silly bugs and broken features that have existed for a long time. Guess I’m manually modifying the surfacing gcode now. Looks like the issue was closed on the github about 5 minutes ago. We’ll see on the next release.

@Kerryh2012 Tks for that. I don’t use it so I was only trying to help the OP with his issue - which I got completely wrong as it turns out.
I’m sure that Sienci will get it fixed in the next gSender release.

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Not to be cynical but it sure seems like there are some gaps in testing before release. I get it’s not the SCM/Testing environment I’m used to from my last Dev ops job but breaking pre=existing features looks bad.

New version of gSender, 1.5.6, has fixed this surfacing input bug: